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General Semantics and Ontology for OpenBio* and Web Services

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  1. General Semantics and Ontology for OpenBio* and Web Services
    1. Overview
    2. Related Workshop Topics
    3. Quick Links to Workshop Outputs
      1. OpenBio* Domain Models for Comparison
      2. Other Ontology Work
    4. Proceedings
    5. Summary of Day 1 Discussions (11th Feb. Afternoon AcademyHills)
      1. Observations: Framing the Problem
      2. Preliminary Questions
    6. Summary of Day 2 (12th Feb. AIST/CBRC)
    7. Summary of Day 3
    8. Summary of Day 4
    9. Summary of Day 5

Overview

Most of the discussions at this hackathon deal with technology issues relating to interoperability. A few of the discussions are discuss  OpenBio* "platform specific implementations" - language APIs (BioRuby, BioJava, BioPerl, etc.), web service protocols (BioMoby et. al.) and database implementations (i.e. !BioSQL). A general issue relating to harmonization of community semantics or, at least, establishing a community process for semantics management, is recognized. This OpenSpace discussion is targeting this issue for further progress.

The broader scope of this discussion is titled OpenBioSemantics rather than simply Ontology.

Convenor/faciltator: Richard Bruskiewich

Discussion Contributors:

  • Paul Gordon
  • Richard Holland
  • Will York
  • Martin Senger
  • Mark Wilkinson
  • Hilmar Lapp
  • Chad Matsalla (from afar)
  • please add your name if you were there! I apologize if I missed recording you....

Related Workshop Topics

Quick Links to Workshop Outputs

OpenBio* Domain Models for Comparison

Other Ontology Work

Proceedings

Summary of Day 1 Discussions (11th Feb. Afternoon AcademyHills)

Observations: Framing the Problem

Cathedral versus the Bazaar: the global community of bioinformatics are struggling with the issue of semantics, and various formalisms are currently being used to capture such semantics, i.e.

At this meeting, a general desire is being expressed to achieve some level of interoperability, at least, between  OpenBio* initiatives generally, and more specifically, between  OpenBio* and web services protocols like  BioMoby and  EMBRACE.

An addition targeted need is simply to harmonize specific ontology pertinent to key interoperability technology. A specific example of such a need (from M. Wilkinson) is the harmonization of  BioMoby and  myGrid  service ontology.

It is generally agreed that semantics is a hard community problem ("herding the cats") but can be made tractable by "divide and conquer" (witness the relative success of GO and other similar ontology development communities). Efforts should and generally are, driven by a specific set of practical tasks in the community, on an "as needed" basis. The expectation to create a consensual "mother-of-all-biological-data-models" is most likely unrealistic, but can some agreement on the general principles, process and tools of semantic collaboration be achieved?

Preliminary Questions

  1. Can a formal community strategy (akin to that in successful ontology consortia) for the specification and evolution of open bio semantics be specified and endorsed?
  2. Would the objective of interoperability between OpenBio*, web services protocols and related initiatives be well served by the specification of a common consensual "platform independent" domain model (or set of domain models)?
    • If so, how should this best be specified? Can an intersection set of OpenBio* semantics be extracted and formalized (i.e. in UML or OWL)?
    • How might it be used directly as a focal point for harmonization of OpenBio* API's, web service protocols, etc.
    • Can the task be partitioned down to size to make it tractable, yet large enough to be useful (achieve "buy-in")? Can guidelines for modular (community specific) code/data type modules be stipulated? e.g. glycoinformatics

Summary of Day 2 (12th Feb. AIST/CBRC)

  • Group facilitator caught up with capturing day 1 proceedings (above) from poster notes.
  • It was decided to use UML (rather than OWL/RDF) to initially document object models in OpenBio* projects for further community discussion on shared semantics, given that these models are coming from reverse engineered "object oriented" software (which UML is well suited to describe). Such a model could, in the future, be expressed as an OWL/RDF platform specific implementation, for more general computability (i.e. in Moby 2.0?).
  • Moving forward this idea that a shared domain model might facilitate interoperability in OpenBio* projects and web services, Richard Holland and Richard Bruskiewich spent part of the afternoon of day 2 drawing UML diagrams reflecting the BioJava object data types, and started tracking down (over email) a BioPerl UML model that is rumoured to be available.

Summary of Day 3

  • No specific ontology team discussions convened but theme specific discussions underway (e.g. with Glycoinformatics team).

Summary of Day 4

  • GCP domain model and BioMoby data types:
    • Mark Wilkinson, Martin Senger and Richard Bruskiewich jointly reviewed  Generation Challenge Program domain model and corresponding  GCP model driven !BioMoby data types. GCP Moby data types generally passed muster and are generally compliant with the BioMoby philosophy and usable "as is". A few key technical issues highlighted (again) for future resolution, perhaps as part of the Moby 2.0 release. These are:
      • Martin and Mark, please add
    • The need for "shim services" to expand connectivity of GCP services with outside (non-GCP) services and data types was identified.
  • Harmonization of BioMoby and myGrid service ontology underway by myGrid community (with the collusion of Mark W.). See  joint myGrid-Moby service ontology.

Summary of Day 5